lol...I remember there were (and still are) topics in the general forums like... "Marijuana is the best drug because..." And it went on for like 19 pages and was there for more than a week before it either got deleted or just bumped down by other posts. How is that related to "WoW General" ?The amount of trash talking in realm forums is as bad as trade chat.Other topics like " bliz u suk lol" "dud y is this broke lolz"Or just the regular kids making a topic so they can attract a "blue." Once a blue posts everyone quotes them and wants a response. Cause blues are better than normal people riteeee? Yeah then those topics go on for 20 pages about nothing.Terrible forums.
Overall I agree with Seebs' sentiment, save that I think not adopting a policy unless it is fair to everyone will result in never adopting a policy. However, in this instance I agree that displaying real names could be harmful to enough people to make it a very stupid idea.Obviously, there's a limit to how far you can go. I don't expect forums which are 100% fully usable by people who cannot read, hear, taste, or feel anything. It's sort of a tradeoff; how many people are affected adversely, how much are they affected, how easily could they avoid it, and what are the benefits? So, for instance, adopting a thing where Blizzard posts are red, and CM posts are green, and the colors are carefully calibrated to look identical to people with red-green color blindness? That'd be stupid. No benefit to anyone, hard for the people affected to do anything about it."Real" names are a stupid thing because they don't add value for anyone other than facebook. (And that qualifier is why they're being pushed so hard anyway -- because facebook has more money than any given million or so WoW players.) They don't harm many people, but in the rare cases where they do, the harm is relatively severe, and extremely hard for people to avoid without abandoning the feature entirely. But they don't help anyone; no one's better off from the feature being there.Just to pick a different example, consider the signature thing. They're dropping sigs. I personally dislike this, but the analysis looks a lot different. Sigs have been moderately disruptive in the past, and don't add much value. They especially don't add value if they have profile features where people can put things in their profiles. It's not a completely trivial feature to do, it creates more work for moderators because people like to try to break rules in the sigs, and so on... It is reasonable for them to decide it's not worth it.
Considering the reactions you provoke on this site Aestu, I'm not really inclined to be on your hand when it comes to your bans. As soon as you poke your nose around a topic certainly half of the time it spirals out of control. I'll meet this head-on."Spirals out of control"...meaning what, exactly? If the thread is going places - discussion and critical analysis of viewpoints has been elicited - how can you say that's a bad thing? Are the forums going to spiral across a crowded intersection at 150KPH, sending the feckless passengers through their windshields and crushing pedestrians under two tons of steel? Are we going to break our beer bottles on our computer desks and go at it in an intoxicated rage until someone pulls out a Glock and the coroner chalks up another homicide? The quality of a thread is defined by its informational content, and also by its utility in amusing patrons and building community. What does it really matter if someone disagrees with me, or doesn't like my tone, or their precious vanity is offended? Part of maturity is taking the good with the bad...and I think my posts have quite a bit of good to them. I provide useful information and sometimes a bit of humor or insight. Sure, maybe I could be perfect and offend no one. But no one is perfect...and that does not diminish the value of flawed human efforts. And perhaps some good comes of stirring the pot.So, to you, I ask: is it fair to write off what someone has to say, because some people just don't like what's being said? Are we so feeble we cannot tolerate controversy?
lol...I remember there were (and still are) topics in the general forums like... "Marijuana is the best drug because..." And it went on for like 19 pages and was there for more than a week before it either got deleted or just bumped down by other posts. How is that related to "WoW General" ?The amount of trash talking in realm forums is as bad as trade chat.Other topics like " bliz u suk lol" "dud y is this broke lolz"Or just the regular kids making a topic so they can attract a "blue." Once a blue posts everyone quotes them and wants a response. Cause blues are better than normal people riteeee? Yeah then those topics go on for 20 pages about nothing.Terrible forums....and five years and waves of bans and thread nukes later, the problem is worse than ever...and nowhere is it worse than on the official forums...and that is why the Mod Squad have proven themselves utterly incompetent.EJ. MMO Champ. Tankspot. Wowhead. They don't have these problems. WoW General does. And many routine posters on all forums are banned only by the CMs.
Are we so feeble we cannot tolerate controversy?We're so full of bulldoodoo in our regular lives that we can't tolerate controversy in our off-time.
My personal experience is that you answer the question you wish was asked, not the one that was actually asked. I can remember a couple of examples where you and I have debated.. and you skipped over the meat of content, not just that, you rarely followed up on counter arguements... also you do your best to belittle those of opposing opinions by attacking us ad hominem.. I know because I had this done to me by your posts. If it were controversy, it would be one thing... but it just turns out to be bullying IMONot entirely untrue. My intent in doing so is usually to avoid what I, personally and subjectively, see as digressions, or discussion meandering into the realm of the unverifiable (real life and such). At the same time, opinions are invariably the product of the poster, and it's part of the nature of this game and life itself that what we claim to believe is often an apologia for our own shortcomings...and that dynamic is a major driving force in both the development and community of this game.