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Emblems to Justice Points Conversion Update

posted 2010/09/29 at 1:42 PM by ArgentSun

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We’ve revised the Justice Points conversion rate for Emblems of Triumph and Emblems of Frost. When the upcoming 4.0.1 patch goes live, these emblems will be converted into 11.58 Justice Points (up from the previously planned 2.75 Justice Points per emblem). Justice Points accrued above the soft cap of 4,000 will be converted to gold at a rate of 47.5 silver per point (down from 2 gold per point) when patch 4.0.3 goes live.

The original explanation thread (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26850245012) and the subsequent conversion math update (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26850245012&sid=1&pageNo=10#184) have been updated to reflect these changes.

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Comment by atomicwolf22 QQ MOAR!

By the time 4.0 goes live, 1 Emblem of any kind will get you 4000 points!

Seriously, Blizz needs to stop and think about the fact that 11 million people are listening when they speak. And many of us already dumped our emblems based on what they said. Sure, I know, its pixels.....farm more....QQ less, but if this is a sign of things to come, Im scared of what Cata is going to be like.

And FWIW, Im not QQing at all about the original conversion amount, just that they changed it after announcing it, causing me, and Im sure others, to make a decision based on that announcement.Comment by budgie So next patch I am guessing probably 2-3 weeks max. Then a month of being able to buy every frost item so easily.

So I was wrong in the other topic. Save your badges.

Funny I have 700+ frost badges on my paladin, but they are equal to my 400+ triumph.

So I won't cap at points until Catacylsm Comment by rnbw I wrote about it on the Emblem of Frost Page.

Also for those who are saying Emblems of Frost should be worth more: that's not correct. When Cataclysm hits, Emblems of Frost will be the "lower tier", so they will be equal to other "lower tier" emblems (just like Heroism = Valor = Conquest = Triumph right now).

I'm personally a bit disappointed with this change. Before you needed about 1400 emblems to hit the Justice Points cap, now you only need 345.

If items will be about 2500 justice points (from what I read on MMO Champion) you first needed about 900 emblems to buy one item, so having the Emblems of Frost and Triumph right now was just a convenience towards getting your first item. Currently you only need 215 emblems for that.

And these are not insane amounts. I've been having about 600 emblems on my Paladin for ages. Then I bought a full set of plate heirlooms and in no time I was up to about 600 again. 600 emblems means 6948 Justice Points in the patch, and then 4000 Justice Points + 1400 gold when Cataclysm comes. That's a lot. Also then at level 85 I could probably buy one "more expensive" item (say 2500 points) and one "cheap item" (for example a wand type of item).

I like it more when you actually still had to play some Cataclysm content to at least get items (unless you were a total grind monkey). Comment by prollfin
The previous conversion rate was intended to devalue Frost and Triumph a bit to discourage some amount of farming and hoarding of points before the conversion, but then we came to the conclusion that no matter what we do people would be farming well above the softcap, and we shouldn't try to make it more difficult for them to do so. Comment by Notoriouzz ...wow, just wow.

I just went and blew my frost emblems on saronite last night, because of a thread I read where they said that 2.75 points was about 1/6 of a heroics boss, and it wouldn't be worth it to save the emblems.

Sigh...well, the triumph badges are still 2.75, right?Comment by Notoriouzz I wrote about it on the Emblem of Frost Page.

Also for those who are saying Emblems of Frost should be worth more: that's not correct. When Cataclysm hits, Emblems of Frost will be the "lower tier", so they will be equal to other "lower tier" emblems (just like Heroism = Valor = Conquest = Triumph right now).

I'm personally a bit disappointed with this change. Before you needed about 1400 emblems to hit the Justice Points cap, now you only need 345.

If items will be about 2500 justice points (from what I read on MMO Champion) you first needed about 900 emblems to buy one item, so having the Emblems of Frost and Triumph right now was just a convenience towards getting your first item. Currently you only need 215 emblems for that.

And these are not insane amounts. I've been having about 600 emblems on my Paladin for ages. Then I bought a full set of plate heirlooms and in no time I was up to about 600 again. 600 emblems means 6948 Justice Points in the patch, and then 4000 Justice Points + 1400 gold when Cataclysm comes. That's a lot. Also then at level 85 I could probably buy one "more expensive" item (say 2500 points) and one "cheap item" (for example a wand type of item).

I like it more when you actually still had to play some Cataclysm content to at least get items (unless you were a total grind monkey).Comment by NyteShady Guys, most of you are missing something VERY important.

According to MMO-Champion:

ONE piece of gear will cost upwards of 1200+ justice/heroism points.

:/ So they upped the conversion rate so that it would be a more reasonable, appropriate length of time to farm points for one piece. If 152 total emblems would only convert to 1/4 of the points required for one piece...the game stops being fun. A challenge is a challenge, but to have to farm enough badges for one piece, when the conversion rate is...wildly inappropriate, not to mention disproportionate...that's not fun. It stops being a challenge and becomes an unpleasant farming-game. Comment by Interest Oh thank god...

Now I don't have to spend all those Triumph Emblems. Comment by Varaconn Better conversion rate, though I'll still wait til 4.0.1 to facegrind heroics. Comment by pezz Guys, most of you are missing something VERY important.

According to MMO-Champion:

ONE piece of gear will cost upwards of 1200+ justice/heroism points.Comment by Azrile Guys, most of you are missing something VERY important.

According to MMO-Champion:

ONE piece of gear will cost upwards of 1200+ justice/heroism points.Comment by afireinside92 How will heirloom items be bought when this happens? With gold? Just curious

Thanks. Comment by Phaleux How will heirloom items be bought when this happens? With gold? Just curious

Thanks.Comment by carnifex2005 Guys, most of you are missing something VERY important.

According to MMO-Champion:

ONE piece of gear will cost upwards of 1200+ justice/heroism points.MMO-Championilvl 346Comment by Adamsm How will heirloom items be bought when this happens? With gold? Just curious

Thanks.Comment by Kroeber How will heirloom items be bought when this happens? With gold? Just curious

Thanks.Comment by d3xx The ilvl inflation is excessive in my opinion. Level 85 blues should be only slightly better than T10. When Wrath was released, i didnt start replacing my hunter's T6 until i started getting ilvl 200 gear. Comment by prollfin How will heirloom items be bought when this happens? With gold? Just curious

Thanks.Comment by SirPunky Does that mean you can buy heirloom gear for your first toon right at level 80?level 10 for cloakslevel 20 for helmsComment by Varaconn The ilvl inflation is excessive in my opinion. Level 85 blues should be only slightly better than T10. When Wrath was released, i didnt start replacing my hunter's T6 until i started getting ilvl 200 gear.

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