It will be good that you can have an unquie id tied to the forum. It has the same positive effect that Blizzard was hoping for. Has there ever been a topic that has gotten so much intrest and response before in WoW? I've been gaming for over 20 years and I can never remember something of this size happening. Also the 50,000 posts was just the US forums , it got another 11,000+ on the EU English forums too and I am sure the other language spesific forums were just as heated on the subject.It's a very positive thing to see a comunity so united on a subject across the globe , surley it was comerical suicide not to act on it?
And that is different than having your entire name on the internet... so the point of this is?Exactly. You can't run a background check on 'seebs' unless you have access to the police database and it's a known alias (as in, you've been arrested and told them people call you 'seebs').You can run a background check on 'John Somelastname' and find out where he lives and his phone number and who his relatives are.
I say about damn time. I'm not going thank them for doing their duty; it's Blizzard's job to clean up the mess they made with Real ID.
Well, blizzard made a good choice, but it has to follow that up. This means more moderators, more permabans, and generally making sure that even if we use ailiases, trolls are discouraged or barred from posting.
I guess all that incessant whining paid off.How long did that thread on the official forums end up being, anyway?rather believe it was more of the feed back well written and explained emails that were sent to blizz noting why this was a bad choice, rather than the "RAAHAHF FOMMING MOUTH RAGER RARRFFE" that kept getting ignored and closed that convinced them.
All they had to do was have everyone create a single id that would be used for all things Blizzard.If someone is being a &*!@#$bag on the forums, suspend or ban their account. When they miss a few raids because of it, the problem would have taken care of itself.That also gets rid of the level 1s posting their trollish garbage.
Man, I was really looking forward to this change. Looks like I'll stick to not using the official forums...
FWIW, if anyone hasn't caught on that "seebs" is functionally my real name, I'm not sure what to say.Seriously, my lawyer, my spouse, my roommates, the guy who was the best man at my wedding (and his wife -- I was the best man at his), my boss, my coworkers... Everyone calls me "seebs". And that is different than having your entire name on the internet... so the point of this is?Actually, it's not really. Because "seebs" is enough more accurately me that it will turn up literally tens of thousands of things that I wrote, about my religion, about my hobbies, and so on, than my legal name would. And yet, it also turns up my legal name really easily, so you can find all that stuff to.Point is, I'm not hiding or being anonymous here. I'm not afraid of being identified as who I am or saying what I'm saying. Heck, I did a bunch of Scientology protest stuff under this name, and they have a habit of threatening critics.My point is, the people who hated this scheme are not necessarily people who are afraid to be "held accountable" for what they say or do on the Internet.
And this is a proof that Blizzard listen to the users' voices.
=/ I actually liked that idea.Same. Oh well, less topics to clean up :PYes, proceed with the spam of topics about this new revelation. >:D
In response to the original post.
Grats Blizz Thanks for rewarding all the trolls AGAIN! The Real ID on the forums is probably the best change you guys have ever thought of and the only people that would have stopped using the forums ARE TROLLS.I have only used the official forums infrequently. The only times I've really used them are for the purposes of suggesting game improvements, or responding to technical issues. Had this change gone into effect, I would have never posted on the forums again, for any reason.because they know it would have real world ramifications such as stalkers beating them to a pulp for being a holes online.And this wouldn't have worked both ways, of course. </sarcasm> A forum troll could have simply lurked on the forums, collected the names of people, and then stalked them.Oh, and the fact that a good number of trolls are actually pretty intelligent leads me to believe they wouldn't give a crap. Let's say that the community beat up a troll; now the "vigilantes" are in prison, with multiple civil suits against them, and the troll is healed in a month. Great job! ...not...Again, I applaud Blizzard for reversing this decision. The removal of any number of forum trolls was not, in any way, worth the privacy violations and the increase in ease of real world stalking.
I didn’t post on the main thread but with over 500,000 views and 50,000 posts blizzard did get the message. While I understand they want to clean up their boards and there are a lot of junk posts the fact that I would then have to be posting with my name was not something I was going to do. for those who say if you complain enough you’ll get what you want this wasn’t a minority of players posting on level 1 alts as trolls this was people posting for the majority with their mains; posts that were constructed quite well and just stating how they had felt betrayed over the decision to make players post with their names.I didn’t jump on the bandwagon and cancel my account but I know a lot of people who did I hope that they come back but time will tell
I guess the 9000+ pages of people saying it was a bad ideal payed off, good ideal blizzard not to cut of the cash cow....but you might wanna let the quitters know this happened so they come back.
The "at this time" caveat is worrisome. We have to realize that this is not an isolated thing. Controlling the internet is a goal of some that will not go away this easy.Blizzard was probably leery of this all along. They could also appease the playerbase and the people targeting them with legal problems for the time being. We don't know if they where forced to make some kind of other deal.I think it's something to worry about to. That and the "Over time, we will continue to evolve Real ID on Battle.net to add new and exciting functionality within our games for players who decide to use the feature."As it is now, Blizz has introduced a cross server LFD tool... is hinting about maybe cross server raids ... but the only was to stay in touch with any cross server raiders is to use Real ID. And while the intended purpose of Real ID is noted to be " real life friends" ... the examples they use clearly show they expect RealID to be a tool to "MAKE" friendships. How do you go about making friends if you are using the system for the intended purpose with "real life friends"?Back to my point.. in this statement they are basically saying new features are being developed that you can't use unless you opt in to realID. Which means like the LFD without the capacity to contact those people again ... parts of the game are being offered only to those who are willing to out out of privacy.
My reasoning is that it would have made a lot of people stop using the official forums, which I consider an extremely good thing. Currently there are too many people posting.You dont think a large community is a good thing? o.OHe just wants wowhead to get even more traffic ;PAm I the only person who thinks the Starcraft II naming format needs to be changed, too? Why do I have to be miyari.wowhead or miyari.anything - why can't I just be Miyari? :|if you must have a dot-tag, become miyari.awesome :P
I liked the idea as well.However, I think Blizzard should develop the new forums where you click on someone's name and it shows all their characters: so there isn't all these low level alts complaining about high level play style, specific players, and just general complaining.
I liked the idea as well.However, I think Blizzard should develop the new forums where you click on someone's name and it shows all their characters: so there isn't all these low level alts complaining about high level play style, specific players, and just general complaining.Well like I said, they're still going to implement a comment rating system akin to what makes wowhead's database comment so good.
I liked the idea as well.However, I think Blizzard should develop the new forums where you click on someone's name and it shows all their characters: so there isn't all these low level alts complaining about high level play style, specific players, and just general complaining.Well like I said, they're still going to implement a comment rating system akin to what makes wowhead's database comment so good.And if they extend what they said about the SCII forums (linking your posts with a Battlenet alias followed by your character code) to the WoW forums, it will serve mostly the same purpose, without privacy threats.
There's a striking difference between constructive feedback / casual banter and troll/flame/profanity/nerf posts. Why don't they just initiate a stricter "zero tolerance" policy and immediately perma-ban people who post the latter?