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Cataclysm Talent Preview!

posted 2010/06/09 at 8:00 PM by Malgayne

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Comment by Rankkor no DK talents? boooooo Comment by brionl So what happened to the interview with Ghostcrawler? Comment by Sigmafel So what happened to the interview with Ghostcrawler?Comment by Blargg Wow. These new trees look pretty bad, almost fake.

Hopefully the final draft won't resemble these.

Seriously, I'm inclined to believe they WERE made up. Comment by aaroc I must say that overall I'm pretty underwhelmed by the talent trees released. I was hoping for more custmization. all we really got were more pvp talents. so if you PVP you get more customization by figuring out which PvE talents you want tto take to improve your character, but in terms of Pve/raiding, you will really only have one optimal spec, which is what I thought they were trying to move away from. I was hoping to see talent trees overloaded with so many juicy talents in all trees, and especially in the first three or four tiers that you didn't know if you wanted to go with a full X spec, or with x and a few points in Y, maybe a spec with X and a few points in Z, or maybe even a spec with mostly X and a few points in both Y and Z.

Shadow rpiests right now are looking much like ret pallies currently. Their trees are so bare that they can easily take every single talent in shadow and still have a few left over to put points into stuff that will boost their.. holy damage or healing, which makes no sense.

Discipline and Holy were shown some love, in that they have a decent selection of what they want to take in the other tree once they fill up what they want in their own tree, but it's still a bit lackluster and there are no real options in the shadow tree, so there will probably only end up being one or two optimal builds each for Holy and Discipline.

I see the same kind of thing in the Druid talent trees. A feral druid will wither spend all their points in the feral tree, or put a few into resto. there's nothing really compelling about the balance tree for feral druids except, maybe nature's reach, to increase the reach of fearie fire(feral), which isn't all that great and would waste a bunch of points to get there. Also, there's nothing really compelling about the feral tree for resto or balance druids.

I don't know much about shaman, so I can't really comment there, but the rogue talent tree is much less limiting as to which secondary trees you can put your points. Granted, most non-combat rogues will still want to put at least 10 points in combat for Precision, but at least assassination rogues will have to choose between 5% chance to hit from Combat, or 5% crit from Subtlety.

Basically, I'd like to see more good (non-pvp) talents in all trees, and more talents that are useful to all three specs in the first four tiers of all trees. Comment by Sigmafel Basically, I'd like to see more good (non-pvp) talents in all trees, and more talents that are useful to all three specs in the first four tiers of all trees.Comment by MyTie So, they promised to redo talents to get rid of the "mandatory" talents, and try to make them more optional and fun. Instead they seem to have swapped around some numbers, did a bit of nerfing, a bit of buffing, and some balancing. So, no revolution, just the same cookie cutter garbage we've seen for years.

Seriously, they need to make the talents vastly different. Comment by Ozzmodious The new Cataclysm talent trees, are just way to awesome.

But I do have to ask. Are the masteries bonus going to be added to the new talent trees?

Thanks for the hard work in getting the talent trees set up.feedback@wowhead.com,"We will add the masteries when the details surrounding are no longer restricted from publishing by the Cataclysm Alpha NDA."Comment by Barakis "Dark Thoughts - reduces the pushback suffered from damaging attacks while casting any shadow spells by 70%"
Imp shadow form does the same 70% when in shadow form. So from what I can tell dark thoughts is for non-shadow form shadow spells only. What a waste Comment by Indeed Any idea when the next talent changes are going to hit? - I know im not the first guy to ask this question, nor the last, but i just found it odd thats it been so long since the first 4 .. Comment by Orthis there is a warrior one out on http://www.raevyn.net/wiki/files/talent/warrior.html hereFurious SunderingComment by Conflate Can't wait for Paladin! Comment by denyaltherogue These are POSSIBLE rogue speccs... i was never the best at speccing so give me a break XD

http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#fhg0zeboZE0gVruoru0czbeo:kNicVm

http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#fMebueLoV0oIuquV0xZg0cz:LIdcVm Comment by burningitup Long time Disc priest, first time poster.
I am having trouble exspressing my disgust with the Smite talents. I despise the Smite spell, there i said it. Smite is has to long a cast for to little dps/mana. Smite is only used because it has no cooldown, with a cd it wouldnt be worth training so i guess its good its free at lvl 1.
Holy Nova even glyphed is not a viable way to dps elite mobs. Priests alredi have a dps tree, its called Shadow.
Surge of Light, Holy Reach, Deliverance(Serendipity -3%)... all talents that Holy will have full ranks in and that Disc will not/may not have at all. Not to mention Holy has the option of taking out the Guardian Spirit talent and getting first rank in Improved Spirit Tap for an excuse to use SW:D.
Please Jesus, let there be crit with Focused Will with no Holy Specialization i am NERD RAGING. Comment by burningitup Discipline and Holy were shown some love, in that they have a decent selection of what they want to take in the other tree once they fill up what they want in their own tree, but it's still a bit lackluster and there are no real options in the shadow tree, so there will probably only end up being one or two optimal builds each for Holy and Discipline.

Basically, I'd like to see more good (non-pvp) talents in all trees, and more talents that are useful to all three specs in the first four tiers of all trees.Comment by Heretic013 These are POSSIBLE rogue speccs... i was never the best at speccing so give me a break XD

http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#fhg0zeboZE0gVruoru0czbeo:kNicVm

http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#fMebueLoV0oIuquV0xZg0cz:LIdcVmhttp://cata.wowhead.com/talent#fhxMueMoiMshdhuMZe0fhMbzb:aTimcVhttp://cata.wowhead.com/talent#f0eMuegoVzohuhuMZe0fhMbzb:aTimcVComment by bigred93180 sushertru is my hunter and i dont like that i can take out a lvl 40 in 5 hits with no BoA gear on. but the druid tree is awesome. the priest well they got nerfed so i dont like cta at all but the talent trees are preeety kool. email me at bigred93180@yahoo.com i take questions and guys iam a creator of wow iam bloging to find out wat to add to make u happy.

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