Algalon was the bigger threat sure..... but he only found out what going on after we broke down his door and stormed in. Till that point, he was merely monitoring the world and observing what was happening; between the rise of Two Old Gods, an invasion of Demons, and a little Undeath creature getting too big for his britches, the Observer didn't seem to care too much. It wasn't until a bunch of little creatures challenged him personally that he began to feel the world might need a reset.... which does seem a little strange when you put it that way heh.What you got wrong, eh? Algalon doesn't just decide to reset the planet because little mortals challenge him, he's here specifically to do that, because the Pantheon told him to check for systematic corruption in the planet. The only reason we're busting down his door and fighting him is to stop him from pushing the big "Reset" button on Azeroth. And the 1hr timer is because Blizzard is evil. D:
What you got wrong, eh? Algalon doesn't just decide to reset the planet because little mortals challenge him, he's here specifically to do that, because the Pantheon told him to check for systematic corruption in the planet. The only reason we're busting down his door and fighting him is to stop him from pushing the big "Reset" button on Azeroth. And the 1hr timer is because Blizzard is evil. D:Right... but what is about the fact that the mortals are attacking Ulduar that suddenly makes him push the button? Yes, Loken went down, but still; The Observer would have seen the War with the Legion and the Dark Horde, then the War with Scourge and the Legion again, then the return of C'thun, The whole thing with the Sunwell and Kil'jaeden, the Undeath Knight turning into a King and threatening all life on Azeroth, and of course Yogg being free in the same facility as the Observer...... yet, through out all of this, he doesn't feel like pushing that button till the mortals are involved.....If the point was to reset a world due to everything go off base, wouldn't it have made sense to do that during any of the Legion Wars, or back when one of the Aspects went off the reservation and created the Demon Soul?
Disagree with the post a bit here, Algalon was an envoy of the titans, sent to examine the distress call sent out. While I would argue with him being shown the error of his ways by 10/25 people fighting him for a while, I disagree with the notion that the fight was misplaced in the grand scheme of this, as in the end he was a mesenger of the titans, not a titan himself. Arthas however, is essentially the fusion of the old arthas, Nerzhul (both strong characters in lore) and some form of malevolent entity Kil'jaeden infused into the armour and blade(at least thats my interpretation, clearly its not just Arthas and Ner'zhul in there). My point I guess is that Algalon was just an envoy of the titans, sent merely to observe and report back, while the Lich King was sent to Azeroth with the sole purpose of weakening the world to prepare for the legion's invasion. And as such he is suitably badass to be the end boss of an expansion.
Now, I understand, believe you me, that Arthas MUST be the final fight of WotLK. It's called Wrath of the Lich King for goodness sakes. Last I checked, Illidan wasn't the last boss of The Burning Crusade. I am a bit dissapointed this post was a blog, as it seems to be yet another ill-informed topic that has been brought up for every single boss ever made(see http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=90377 for example). There will most likely be another content patch just like sunwell was added last expansion. A whole (roughly) year seems a bit much for one raid.Hmmmm, you're not into lore are you?Matter of fact, you're just making yourself look stupid
Now, I understand, believe you me, that Arthas MUST be the final fight of WotLK. It's called Wrath of the Lich King for goodness sakes. Last I checked, Illidan wasn't the last boss of The Burning Crusade. Think about that for a moment and then tell me two things. What does "The Burning Crusade" make you think of, and who was the final boss again?
I think there's one important thing to note here:Algalon isn't the last boss of Ulduar, in terms of 'official' progression, imho. He (was/is) harder than all but possibly 0 watcher Yogg (depending on how many competent hunters you have /lol) but is unlocked by beating Keeper hard-modes (and while Firefighter was possibly the hardest fight in there for a long time, again, in terms of linear progression, there was still General and Yogg + 1 after that). He's much more of a 'side' boss, and a side story.And I think Arthas > Yogg, as far as scary goes. Arthas is much more of a direct threat (and by Arthas, I mean the Lich King, since I'm hoping we'll do something about the entire entity rather than just it's current incarnation) so that's fitting.I do agree, however, that it's sad that a side boss was scarier (lore-wise, and for a fair bit mechanic wise) than most other bosses we've faced. That being said, Algalon is pretty cool, and he was designed to be a top-tier thing, so I think it's fitting/rewarding to have top-tier skill represented with a truly top-tier lore mission: saving the world. In short: Eh. It's cheap in some ways, not in others, and in the end it doesn't really matter. His style fit more with Ulduar, and I think that's why he was placed there. Who would be the "Algalon" of Icecrown? It would be argued that no one should be above Arthas, even though I think it would have been better to have an Algalon type fight in the top-tier of content (assuming we won't be seeing a Sunwell with how they're stretching ICC out) so that only the truly worthy could save the world and he really could be "The Raid Destroyer", rather than semi-trivialized by two tier's worth of upgrades (at least until the next expansion). (P.S. I really liked that he was neutral :D)(P.P.S. Trying to balance lore and development here, but ultimately that's always going to be a hard game to play)
If you haven't notice Lich King is the God of Death he can finish him off someone easily but there is difference between God and Lich King.Algalon is not a god.Gods are immortals wich can not be destroyed but there aren't any gods at Azeroth at all because if we can kill Algalon then we can kill the rest of them they are just too much powerful beyond imagination that's why they are called "Gods". In fact Lich King knew that dealing with Algalon to be the one who finishes Azeroth would be ard used us to do the dirty job for him.Now I will talk about why I mentioned Lich King "God of Death" if there aren't any gods in Azeroth.You see god is not only to be immmortal or an immune machine.God also has to be how powerful you are to destroy or create something.Gods also have the abilitie to grand supernatural powers to others.Yes that's the Lich King.But if you see more carefuly how strong is the Lich King is he can kill easily Tirion the Lightbringer wich he now helds the Ashbringer (remember back at the Light of Dawn)The Titans are not really a big deal since the world's threat is about the Lich King the one who kills people and then creates them in to his army.And yet.....We haven't seen the Wrath of the Lich King
A bad analogy would be: Algalon= 9/11Arthas= The hunt for Osama Bin Laden.So, will we never kill Arthas? Omg, we're damned.
Algalon = SarumanArthas = SauronLord of the Rings - something we all can relate to ^^
Arthas hard mode feeds on your tears.D:
Game wise: Lich King > AlgalonLore wise: Algalon > Lich King
The folks a Blizzard screwed up their lore. Sadly, I think it was a matter of being lazy more then anything. That or someone was just way too in love with the Arthas story line.They had the Arthas/Lich King story line from Warcraft III and kept working it. I think that was a mistake. They could have/should have finished that one up a long time ago and not turned it into the end all be all of WoW.The Titans was a more open, more malleable line of lore. They seem to have just kind of patched things in with little though to what they really could do. A pity too. There was a lot they could have done, but now they have pretty much blown it.For end game we could be fighting gods for the fate of Azeroth (we did, but it's been played down) and instead we are fighting a petty, immature (abet VERY powerful) man who allowed himself to be taken over by some sort of demonic thing in his desire for power.At least after the IC 5 mans, we no longer have Jaina hoping to get him back. Maybe she & Thrall will finally get busy and crate the first of a hybrid Orc/Human race. evil laughThe first? There's been plenty of Orc-Humans already. I agree entirely. I have multiple posts concerning how underplayed Old Gods and Titans are. In Vanilla WoW, we get more build up on fighting Kel Thuzad, who is only the right hand of a main antagonist, then we do C'thun, who is a God who the most powerful beings in the universe had a hard time defeating, and even then they didn't destroy them completely (though if this was due to limiting themselves to not blowing up Azeroth or lack of power is unknown). While I do not wish to underestimate the power of the Lich King, I think it should not even be measured to those in Ulduar. The currently most powerful beings in the world are the Titans (Especially Sargeras the dark one). Ulduar contains five of these, low class as they may be. When I saw Thorim, a Titan, as a Heroic Boss I almost cried. You think Anub'Arak deserves to be a raid boss? In lore, Anub wouldn't even have to burrow because this guy would be stomping him into the floor to quickly. On top of this, it contains an Old God. These are the second most powerful beings in the universe. You know that special metal the scourge uses for Icecrown Citadel? Thats a byproduct of Yogg-Saron. Yogg-Sarons Sh*t is what they made the antagonists main fortress out of. Then of course, there's Algalon. He is the ultimate one shot of the world. He wins. Period. No matter what happens, the most powerful beings in the world become the "side-shows". You know how Deathwing is going to come in stomping and roaring to destroy all life in a few months? You know why he is? Yogg-Saron.
If you haven't notice Lich King is the God of Death he can finish him off someone easily but there is difference between God and Lich King.Algalon is not a godNo, he's a demi-god at most: He was empowered by a member of the Legion. The real God of Death(on Azeroth) is Yogg-Saron, and the Lich King was using his blood to create his citadels and armour for his warriors.
Now who is to say that Algalon wasnt just bluffing and he didnt have said power,If the titans have the power to destroy an entire planet with a touch of a button why dosnt Sageras press the button (prob for the obvios reason there would no game anymore but thats not the point).Algalon could of been just some random cosmic anomaly who came by azeroth and decided to come down for a closer look out of curiosity.Just so happens he hops into ulduar and a gang of 10/25 mortals burst through the door armed with weapons and magic ectHe see's that he is going to be beaten so he makes up a story about sending a message to the titans telling them to destroy the planetWe rough him up and to avoid his own death he tells us that a message has been sent to the titans saying everythings ok and to not destroy the planet.Out of gratitude we thank him and he gives us free weapons he had in his back pocket and legs it off into space again off to another planet for another adventure.Meanwhile Arthas is no joke he already killed millions of people and if we dont stop him he realy will kill everything in Azeroth
If the titans have the power to destroy an entire planet with a touch of a button why dosnt Sageras press the button (prob for the obvios reason there would no game anymore but thats not the point).Cause Sargeras is technically dead. He's in no position to push any buttons.
Cause Sargeras is technically dead. He's in no position to push any buttons.Uh.... no. Sargeras is still alive somewhere in the Dark. It was an Avatar of himself that was 'killed' by Agewynn, and a portion of his spirit was inside of it(that's what corrupted Medivh in the womb). When the Guardian was killed, that part of Sargeras was released and sent out into the Deep Dark/Twisting Nether to let it's master know the plan failed, which was the purpose of the Dreadlord side of the Battle for Undercity, opening a portal for him again.
Wow...This logic makes so much sense....What about Cataclysm bosses though? (lol)
Me thinks Deathwing will be a Cataclysm boss.
Well, if the Titans 'reset' the world, we all disappear and Azeroth starts anew.If Arthas succeeded in his goal, we'd all be mindless zombies.So what's worse, nonexistence or zombies without a conscious?Personally, I unno why Arthas'd wanna turn EvErYoNe into his minions. What's the point of unliving in a world with no enemies, no conflict, no further goals, or not even other creatures with a mind? Sounds boring as hell.
Arthas would look at algalon and summon some random weapon minion to take care of algalon, and then walk out totally convinced his minion dealt with algalon.