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Post by
Jolster
This is not a WoW is dying thread, Just curious that since cata killed off alot of players for the game. Any ideas what the player level currently is? I keep an eye on Xfires playtime and wow has gone from being 2-3 million minutes played more than 2nd place game(normally COD4) to being about 4-5 million minutes behind LoL. So was curious as to what the player activity and level is?
sorry for posting twice, kept saying my first post was deleted.
Post by
Entropyutd
Over 10 Million at the last count.
Cata did not kill off players, why do people keep saying that?
Numbers fluctuate it is natural.
The player base is as strong as ever. Since Wrath peaking at around 12 million the numbers over the last 2 expansions have floated between 12 and 9 million. 12 being an all time high and 9 being a low but still a massive boost on BC subscriptions.
Dying no. Plateauing maybe,
But still very healthy.
Subs equals at LEAST 1 sale of the game at best and more often than not x3 or x4
compare with iconic games.
Pac-Man 7 million
Halo 2 8 million
Skyrim 5.9 million
GoW 5 million
CoD4 4.211 million
Yes there are games with 20 million sales, and Wow is with them
World of Warcraft 12 Million $228 Million
World of Warcraft Expansions 21 Million $399 Million
Wow Sub Revenue $1.4 Billion
Just Google and look at the numbers before asking "are they in decline"
Some people say yes, the cold hard numbers say no.
Post by
Nubnut
I think most people are saying Cata killed off WoW players because it was the first time in WoW's history that it had seen a steady significant drop in players, with it dropping 1/4 of its playerbase over the course of Cata (myself being one of those who quit Cata shortly after Firelands, then came back for Mists).
Post by
Sas148
There is, to my knowledge, no way to find out the active subscription numbers unless Blizzard releases it themselves. Which they often do at the end of various fiscal quarters. Typically that information is released to update shareholders and then it tinkles down to the rest of us. I imagine we may hear something sometime in January as to current figures.
Post by
JDLKY
The 10-K is due 60 or 75 days after the end of the fiscal year which in this case is Dec 31. Usually the 10-Q's and 10-K's of publicly traded firms are released by the company on the same day they are filed. I think Blizzards parent falls into the 60 day category so expect something Mar 1st for the whole year and then the first quarter results on May 5th.
Post by
Jolster
ah okay :) thank you :)
Post by
civgw
Cata did not kill off players, why do people keep saying that?
They say it because Cata was in comparison to other expansions poor at best.
I know of three people who came back to the game recently, who only came back because Mists was not Cata. We are talking about people who had played from Vanilla and quit because Cata was so bad. I had to promise one of them that Mists was more like the old days and he resubbed . He then talked the other two back and they are all now enjoying the game again.
These people were not quitting and waiting for Mists to arrive, they were intending to quit for good.
Myself, I stopped my subsdcription in Cata but as I had 5 1/2 months to go (timed it badly) I hung around not really enjoying it as much as I used to. I intended to stop but then I heard that CRZ was on the cards and that sounded a big step forward. All the grovelling apologies from the devs about the Cata mistakes also gave me hope that they game would turn around.
The 85+ stuff in Mists is great, but unfortunately Cata ruined the 1-85 stuff.
Post by
Jolster
Aye Civgw i had the exact same feelings from cata. i had quit myself just before firelands was released and thought that was it for good. But i can back and started enjoying it again, Hench why i wondered if the player figures where going to start rising again as we have now got a half decent expansion out.
Post by
Entropyutd
Meh, people quit at the start of every expansion claiming it sucks and it's killing the game for them.
Some people just don't like change, some just don't like a particular expansion direction. (In my time I heard whining about Space Goats /ragequit, Welfare epics /ragequit, Cata too hard /ragequit and guess what.. omg Pandas... /ragequit.)
Glad you are back and enjoying MoP, personally I think Cata was a decent albeit flawed expansion, they were to ambitious with what they wanted to do imo and it didn't really work out for some people.
I thoroughly enjoyed the last 12 months or so of Cata personally. Each to their own.
Post by
Jolster
Does the size of the playerbase affect your game experience that much? Even if half the players quit, Wow would still be the largest for-pay MMORPG. There'd be enough people to populate the AH, dungeon finder, and your guild's roster.
If you're not enjoying it because your friends quit, meet up with them in some other game.
Whether the actual subscriber count is 4M or 12M isn't going to matter unless you're investing, in which case there are a ton of other sources of ATVI revenue anyway. Especially since over half of that number comes from other regions.
Does not bother me at all, I was just wondering if numbers where going up since MOP is for most people a much better expansion that cata.
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