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Aff or Dest for PVP

Post by Mashko

Hey guys, i can't really decide what spec to play on my lock. Aff or Dest?
Tried both,m and seems both looks awesome, killing fast, but the only problem on my lock is when i am destruction spec. Can't really cast Chaos bolt, always, stunned or silenced, or instantly killed. When i play aff, is fun, but i want more burst dmg like dest.

I want to play only PVP in MoP, Bg,Rbg, Arenas, duels, etc

Post by Corq

I would go with Destruction. For single targets, you can do much more burst damage. Also they have a few nice healing utilities that you may find useful.

Casting Chaos Bolt is no longer an issue for me with. After conflagrate is cast, you get 3 stacks a buff that reduces the cast time and mana costs of your chaos bolt and incinerate by 30%. (casting chaos bolt while the buff is active will consume 3 stacks, incinerate will consume 1 stack.) you get get up to 6 stacks after 2 conflagrates. This means, 2 chaos bolts can be cast very quickly. Using this with the kil'jaedens cunning talent will allow you to cast it while moving, making your ability to retreat from a fight, while still dealing damage, easier. When targets are at or below 20% health, Shadowburn is your higest priority. This will finish the enemy off 99% of the time, causing you to replenish however many embers you used to cast shadowburn. For example: "joe" the paladin is at 19% hp, you cast Shadowburn, it deals low damage due to a defensive cooldown used, you cast another one, shadowburn kills "joe" the paladin. You restore 2 burning embers. Also the glyph Soul Consumption is vital for warlocks as it will restore 20% health when you finish an enemy off with Shadowburn or Chaos Bolt.

You need to use Grimoire of sacrifice talent for the 25 % damage buff. While using this buff, you will need to summon your felhunter to sacrifice. This will grant you the ability to cast spell lock, which interrupts and silences (if used while target is casting). The fear talent is at your own tastes. I personally prefer the Mortal Coil talent, as it returns 15% of health and seems to be canceled less by damage.
For the spell lock ability, you may want to try these macros:

#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/cast Command Demon

This macro will stop casting your current spell, and cast spell lock. This will be crucial while using the ki'jaedens cunning talent, as moving no longer cancels casts.

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=target/combat/13 Immolate,Incinerate,Incinerate,Incinerate,Incinerate,Incinerate; Incinerate; Immolate

This macro will cast Immolate and 6 incinerates to follow. I would cast conflagrate after immolate, but before you start casting Incinerate, as it will reduce the cast time and make this more effective.

#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/cast Shadowburn

This macro will make you stop casting your current spell, and use shadowburn. This can come in handy when there is more than one person attacking your target, as soon as Shadowburn lights up, its highly recommended that you use it instead of any other spell.

#showtooltip
/cast Fire and Brimstone
/cast (Incinerate or Immolate)

This will cast AoE Incinerate or Immolate.

#showtooltip
/cast Dark Soul: Instability
/use (13 or 14)

This will cast both Dark Soul and use your trinket.

I'm currently working on more macros. just hit me up if you need any more help. Good luck fellow lock!

ps. sorry about not linking spells in the reply. Too lazy lol.

Post by bound4earth

One thing to consider going forward is the design changes coming in 5.1. Which looks to be a big nerf to Chaos Bolt. Affliction on the other hand was heavily destroyed by self healing nerfs and the dispel change turns our pressure into nothing in one click.Play what you enjoy more, each spec has it's downsides and there really is not a trump spec anymore.

Aff or Dest for PVP

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