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Epics in ZG and ZA, Whats the Point?
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Post by
Gone
This really is not a QQ post about epics dropping in the new heroics, im really more just curious what the point is.
I mean they are below 359 ilvl so they wont count for
Cataclysmically Epic
, and they wont be disenchanted into malestorm crystals. I mean what makes them any different from 353 ilvl blues? i really dont see what the point is besides the fact that they happen to be a different color
Post by
Denkou
The point is that they will serve as filler or "midway" pieces to help people who have been struggling with raids. Perhaps some people have not been lucky with drops (damn Halfus still hasn't dropped my shoulders) and can't fill a certain spot for whatever reason, which is where these epics come into play.
There are no ilvl 353 blues as far as I know. PvP blues are 352, but are optimized for PvP; theoretically you can use them for PvE, but a large part of their item budget is spent on resilience which is useless for raiding.
Post by
Tuppence
I agree with the OP - there's no reason for them to be epic, and blues would better fit the current climate - raids are epic, groups are blue, with some slow overlapping.
Post by
Deepthought
Epics have a larger item budget than blues.
Also 353 is the closest it's possible to get between 346 and 359 with an integer.
Also, in the end - why not?
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Post by
Gone
Its not about resiliance, what im saying is they dont give u makestorm crystals, they dont give u the achievment, it seems to me they are not really epics at all, just purple blues
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Patty
The point is that they will serve as filler or "midway" pieces to help people who have been struggling with raids. Perhaps some people have not been lucky with drops (damn Halfus still hasn't dropped my shoulders) and can't fill a certain spot for whatever reason, which is where these epics come into play.
There are no ilvl 353 blues as far as I know. PvP blues are 352, but are optimized for PvP; theoretically you can use them for PvE, but a large part of their item budget is spent on resilience which is useless for raiding.
This. ^
It's essentially like ToC and the ICC instances, but to a lesser extent. They're helping make you more well-equipped to deal with a raid if you haven't raided on that character or have been unlucky with gear.
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Post by
Gone
Its not about resiliance, what im saying is they dont give u makestorm crystals, they dont give u the achievment, it seems to me they are not really epics at all, just purple blues
I asked before (but my post was so long, I can't blame ya for missing it): Do you have evidence that these items cannot be disenchanted into Maelstroms? I've been searching around and i've seen contradicting reports on this.
Well i dont know where exactly but they did poste a while ago in one of the patch updates that they will be treated like rep epics and we will be unable to get malestorms from them
Post by
Interest
Epics have a larger item budget than blues.
Also 353 is the closest it's possible to get between 346 and 359 with an integer.
Also, in the end - why not?
To be honest I don't think Blizzard budgets items that way anymore with Cataclysm. Most of the current Cataclysm gear is a relatively decent example (especially the questing/pre-85 stuff, where a green 2 ilvls higher is definitively better than a blue).
On the subject of the drops being epic: It's probably just to mess with people so they complain.
Post by
OverZealous
The color doesn't matter.
Like, at all.
People just seem to feel better when they get an epic than when they get a blue. Just because.
Post by
perculia
Currently all the ilvl 353 epics on the PTR database say that they can be disenchanted.
Color doesn't really matter, the gear fills some itemization holes as I covered in my recent 4.1 gear guide, I'm sure our casters will be happy about the wand. Some blues are better than 359 epics anyway.
Post by
minad
i think they are hard zug and zulaman. Mini raid i think.
and because new patch comes. New items come. It haves happened a time.
Also. Epic in there. I think would be rare more hopefuly.
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Post by
lonewarrior
More charity epics for people who need to have their color fix without the necessity of effort.
Well, as long as it doesn't convince them into thinking they can now response to raid pug spams, because they believe epics makes them "leet", I say let them have their fix.
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Interest
More charity epics for people who need to have their color fix without the necessity of effort.
Well, as long as it doesn't convince them into thinking they can now response to raid pug spams, because they believe epics makes them "leet", I say let them have their fix.
On the subject of the drops being epic: It's probably just to mess with people so they complain.
See what I mean?
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