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Are the Old Gods killable?
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Post by
Patty
Except...........
that's what Azeroth
looked like before the Sundering; see that orange area in the North? That is where Yogg was imprisoned; not really that 'far' away as it it now.
That might not be what it did look like, it's probably just someone's guess at what it looks like - which is implied by 'Proposed map'.
Post by
Adamsm
There's this one as well for the Dream
, also fan made, but it's still said that Kalimdor was one massive continent; so Northrend would have been in the same area as it's shown in that map; north of the Nerubian kingdoms.
Post by
Patty
The scale may have been different, however. The shape of the land mass...et cetera. ;) Citing it as lore is wandering into fanon territory.
Post by
Skreeran
The scale may have been different, however. The shape of the land mass...et cetera. ;) Citing it as lore is wandering into fanon territory.Off-topic: I've actually been writing an essay on fanon... :P
Not ready to post, however.
Post by
Adamsm
Was just showing though, compared to how it is now, where Northrend is far from the center of Azeroth, it wasn't the same back in the time of the War of the Ancient. From some of what they said, it sounded like it took Mal, Krasus and his dragon counterpart a few days to fly from the Resistance Army base near the center of the continent to the Blacks Lair on the other side of the Well to steal the Demon Soul.
Plus you know...they are 'called' whispers, but they were really speaking into Deathwing's mind, not into his ear.
Even then, it wasn't until the Sundering that the prisons started to weaken, and when Northrend settled to where it is now, was when Yogg started pushing outwards, spreading it's taint across the continent.
Post by
Gone
If you kill an Old God, you kill Azeroth, it's really as simple as that.
At one time this was true, but the records of how azeroth would have died with the death of the old gods, only that they bound the world to themselves with the curse of flesh, which is why the titans imprisoned them rather than destroy them.
At the time they had the entire world under their controll, now its thousands of years later, they have virtiouly no people worhiping them anymore, theyr servants have all been destroyed or banished, their influence over azeroth is considerably less than it was then, now they can probobly be safley destroyed without causing harm to the planet
Except...........that's what Azeroth looked like before the Sundering; see that orange area in the North? That is where Yogg was imprisoned; not really that 'far' away as it it now.
thats still pretty far, also remember he was also behind the assasination of King Llane, which was in the Eastern Kingdomes, showing how far yogg could reach out
Except it took the entire Forger team to banish the Elemental and Elemental Lords, and all of them together to seal the remaining Four Old Gods in their prison. The one that died fighting C'thun was the most powerful of the Forgers; and the Titan's only thought C'thun was dead when in reality he was just playing possum, recovering his strength.
They werent the most powerfull of the titans, and they still defeated them, if it was the Pantheon that was assaulting the old gods they would probobly have destroyed them faster, remember Azeroth was just one small planet, mostley below the titans concern, the titans were spread all over the universe it wasnt all of them, or even their strongest, that went to azeroth, and they still defeated the old gods.
I also recall reading somwhere (i may be wrong as to the quote) that the old gods themselves said it would take all three of them to defeat sargares
Post by
Adamsm
yogg is imprisoned far below the earths surface, on that map hes prolly in teh same place but just beneath open oceanSo......what, during the Sundering, Ulduar got thrown up out of the Sea? Because if what you say is 'right' then all of the Watchers were chilling in the ocean with him.
Post by
Gone
yogg is imprisoned far below the earths surface, on that map hes prolly in teh same place but just beneath open oceanSo......what, during the Sundering, Ulduar got thrown up out of the Sea? Because if what you say is 'right' then all of the Watchers were chilling in the ocean with him.
No i misunderstood what you said my bad, i reajusted my comment, mentioning that Yogg was also behind the assasination of King Llane Wrynn, the eastern kingdomes still being a good distance from Northrend, which shows how far yogg can reach even imprisoned.
Post by
Adamsm
mentioning that Yogg was also behind the assasination of King Llane Wrynn, the eastern kingdomes still being a good distance from Northrend, which shows how far yogg can reach even imprisoned.
I'm sorry...but I have too....
/EPIC FACEPALM
Yogg had absolutely f-ing nothing at all to do with the Death of King Llane, that was all the Shadow Council. Blizzard put that stupid scene in there for some idiotic reason that I still don't understand. Seriously, if I ever find the Blizzard programmer who put that in there, I will hit him so hard, his next 300 descendants will feel it.
Garona was under the absolute control by the Shadow Council, who in turn, were servants of the Legion, the enemy of the Old Gods(as of the WotA). Her mind control was put on her from her birth, and she was the mind controlled servant of the Council for years.
Post by
Gone
mentioning that Yogg was also behind the assasination of King Llane Wrynn, the eastern kingdomes still being a good distance from Northrend, which shows how far yogg can reach even imprisoned.
I'm sorry...but I have too....
/EPIC FACEPALM
Yogg had absolutely f-ing nothing at all to do with the Death of King Llane, that was all the Shadow Council. Blizzard put that stupid scene in there for some idiotic reason that I still don't understand. Seriously, if I ever find the Blizzard programmer who put that in there, I will hit him so hard, his next 300 descendants will feel it.
Garona was under the absolute control by the Shadow Council, who in turn, were servants of the Legion, the enemy of the Old Gods(as of the WotA). Her mind control was put on her from her birth, and she was the mind controlled servant of the Council for years.
Well i guess you know better than blizz, i mean they just created the game
Post by
Monday
Yogg had absolutely f-ing nothing at all to do with the Death of King Llane, that was all the Shadow Council. Blizzard put that stupid scene in there for some idiotic reason that I still don't understand. Seriously, if I ever find the Blizzard programmer who put that in there, I will hit him so hard, his next 300 descendants will feel it.
Post by
Adamsm
Well i guess you know better than blizz, i mean they just created the game
If Yogg had something to do with it, how the hell did he get ahold of Gul'dan when the orc warlock first created Garona back on Draenor before the Portal to Azeroth had ever been opened? As again, and the recent lore on Garona, the comics, which came out after Ulduar was released, stated that it was do to Shadow Council Mind Control that she killed the king of the Stormwind humans, even though she respected the man and saw him as one of her few friends on Azeroth; next to Khadgar and the man who give her a son.
Yogg had absolutely f-ing nothing at all to do with the Death of King Llane, that was all the Shadow Council. Blizzard put that stupid scene in there for some idiotic reason that I still don't understand. Seriously, if I ever find the Blizzard programmer who put that in there, I will hit him so hard, his next 300 descendants will feel it.
Refer to above; the comics came out after Ulduar had already been released in game, which as said above, expanded on the death of Llane, showing us more about it......and again, it was the Shadow Council who sent her after Llane, not some nebulous whispering from an Old God.
As said in most of the other 'evil' threads, they don't need to make the Old Gods responsible for every freaking evil thing that has happened on Azeroth; let there be actual evil people who do things for the desire of Greed, Power, Selfishness, instead of because big fat tentacled monsters said so.
Post by
Gone
lol im jk dude, u mentioned in that thread about nzoth and deathwing a while back how much you hated that scene, i was just trying to bug you Xp
Post by
Adamsm
Please don't; I meant what I said there, if I ever find developer, even if it's Metzan, I will punch them in the nose....
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Post by
Monday
Please don't; I meant what I said there, if I ever find developer, even if it's Metzan, I will punch them in the nose....
Wow Adams. Does your butt hurt?
No thanks to you.
Post by
Perkocet
Please don't; I meant what I said there, if I ever find developer, even if it's Metzan, I will punch them in the nose....
Wow Adams. Does your butt hurt?
No thanks to you.
Wanna bet? :)
Post by
Gone
Anyway i feel like this has gotten way off track
To the OP, yes i beleive that the Old Gods are killable, but not by us mortals, when we "kill" then its only if they are already weakened by something els, and even after they are dead they can still effect the world around them to a dagree.
I may be wrong, but frankley i dont feel like discussing the matter any more, as i feel like we have all made our points and opinions pretty clear and both sides are valid, that being said im off
Post by
killerdinoblood
Except...........
that's what Azeroth
looked like before the Sundering; see that orange area in the North? That is where Yogg was imprisoned; not really that 'far' away as it it now.
LOL
!A map of Azeroth before the Sundering o_O!Adam where do you find these stuff?I it is some kind of site please tell me...i woould sit infront of it the entire day.
Another thing Adam sad is that Cthun is as big as entire Silithus and Yogg-Saron is big as Northrend.I mean...how is this possible,by that logic Yogg-Saron is like 5 times or more bigger (and stronger?) then Cthun...i just find it disturbing.
Also
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By looking at this
im 90% sure Cthun is well and alive and ready to make a reappearence...for which im so sooo happy about :).
Post by
Skreeran
Another thing Adam sad is that Cthun is as big as entire Silithus and Yogg-Saron is big as Northrend.I mean...how is this possible,by that logic Yogg-Saron is like 5 times or more bigger (and stronger?) then Cthun...i just find it disturbing.I, for one, tend to think that C'thun might be lodged deep in all of Kalimdor.
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