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Cairne Bloodhoof was murdered by Garrosh?
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Post by
Dragonzero
Ok, I was tired of seeing ppls say Cairne was killed by Garrosh and but it is not Garrosh's fault. There is happen to Cairne got poison from his drink.
So here is the
answer
Displeased with the new Warchief, Cairne challenges Garrosh Hellscream to an honorable duel in Thunder Bluff. While in recovery after losing the duel, Cairne mysteriously dies. Aghast, Garrosh flees Thunder Bluff, fearing a potential uprising. Only later does he find out that the Grimtotems have been poisoning Cairne's drinks, and that the poison was responsible for his death. Infuriated, Garrosh leads an attack against Thunder Bluff to run out the Grimtotems.
Cairne's son Baine succeeds him as leader of the tauren in Cataclysm.
Post by
Haxzor
Ok, I was tired of seeing ppls say Cairne was killed by Garrosh and but it is not Garrosh's fault. There is happen to Cairne got poison from his drink.
So here is the
answer
Displeased with the new Warchief, Cairne challenges Garrosh Hellscream to an honorable duel in Thunder Bluff. While in recovery after losing the duel, Cairne mysteriously dies. Aghast, Garrosh flees Thunder Bluff, fearing a potential uprising. Only later does he find out that the Grimtotems have been poisoning Cairne's drinks, and that the poison was responsible for his death. Infuriated, Garrosh leads an attack against Thunder Bluff to run out the Grimtotems.
Cairne's son Baine succeeds him as leader of the tauren in Cataclysm.
/facepalm
Post by
themguyman
i didn't even know ppl blamed Garrosh. i mean i knew he was poisoned but i had no idea about the dual with garrosh so this was helpful. death to grimtotems no more tree trunk leader... w8 does baine use a tree 2 cus then i don' care. oh w8 we just lost an achievement
Scrooge
unless they change it to Baine
Post by
ArgentSun
No.
SPOILER
Cairne Bloodhoof was presumably poisoned by the Grimtotems, who are now exiled from Thunder Bluff and considered enemies of all other tauren (and the Horde for that matter).
Post by
Falrinn
We know the general idea of Carine being killed as a combination of Megatha's posion and a fight with Garrosh is true. We also know that despite Garrosh's involvement, the Grimtotem are wholly blamed for Cairne's actual death (hence why the Grimtotem are exiled and the Tauren are still in the Horde). Beyond that, we know almost nothing.
If you check your wowwiki link, you'll find that it cites
This page
as the source for this information. This page also claims that Moria is assassinated by Varian, which barring some unknown endgame event, has pretty much been disproven.
Likewise, it also claims that
players
will accompany Garrosh in driving out the Grimtotem, which is rather difficult considering that Bane is already in charge of the Tauren at level one in Cataclysm and that Garrosh doesn't take command until after the Cataclysm occurs. So unless Carine gets seriously displeased with Garrosh before the ground has even stopped shaking, I think it's safe to say the detials are a bit off.
If I had to guess, it was probably based on an early story draft that won't be implemented into the game as it was originally written. That shouldn't be too surprising, I'd be more surprised if there is a single quest in all of WoW that remained 100% unchanged from drafting to implementation into the live game.
Post by
Garenzo
As far as I know, the only hint of this happening at all is Baine saying something in the line of "It took the Grimtotem's poison and Hellscream's rage to defeat my father" on one of the quests at the end of the Tauren leveling questchain. (and a Grimtotem leader also mentions it, "You'll die like your father" or something) It's obvious though from the dialogue after that that Baine is loyal and respectful to Garrosh and doesn't hold any grudge against him for Cairne's death.
So well, I think it's perfectly fine to say it wasn't his fault.
Post by
Adamsm
Hoorah for posting this again..... after like 9-15 different topics, about a wide variety of Garrosh rants, already existed.
Argent, why didn't you just lock it?
Post by
SidheKnight
As far as I know, the only hint of this happening at all is Baine saying something in the line of "It took the Grimtotem's poison and Hellscream's rage to defeat my father" on one of the quests at the end of the Tauren leveling questchain. (and a Grimtotem leader also mentions it, "You'll die like your father" or something) It's obvious though from the dialogue after that that Baine is loyal and respectful to Garrosh and doesn't hold any grudge against him for Cairne's death.
So well, I think it's perfectly fine to say it wasn't his fault fault.
^ This.
And also...
SPOILER
:
The Grimtotems join the Alliance in the battle in Stonetalon Mountains (not as official members of course, but as "allies" of the Alliance, if you get my point).
P.S: You wrote "fault" twice in the last sentence =)
Post by
Adamsm
And also...
SPOILER
:
The Grimtotems join the Alliance in the battle in Stonetalon Mountains (not as official members of course, but as "allies" of the Alliance, if you get my point).
"Enemy of my enemy is my friend"; the Grimtotems ask the Alliance to do a job for them, once the job is over, the Grimtotems allow Alliance forces to use their pass into the Barrens to strike at the Horde.
Post by
Garenzo
As far as I know, the only hint of this happening at all is Baine saying something in the line of "It took the Grimtotem's poison and Hellscream's rage to defeat my father" on one of the quests at the end of the Tauren leveling questchain. (and a Grimtotem leader also mentions it, "You'll die like your father" or something) It's obvious though from the dialogue after that that Baine is loyal and respectful to Garrosh and doesn't hold any grudge against him for Cairne's death.
So well, I think it's perfectly fine to say it wasn't his fault.
^ This.
And also...
SPOILER
:
The Grimtotems join the Alliance in the battle in Stonetalon Mountains (not as official members of course, but as "allies" of the Alliance, if you get my point).
P.S: You wrote "fault" twice in the last sentence =)
Heh, thanks. Edited a typo without paying attention... :-)
Gonna have to agree with the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" part. (that Adamsm posted) The alliance doesn't have anything with Cairne's death so not sure how the quote was relevant.
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