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How does weapon DPS impact Feral Cat DPS?
As I understand it, weapon damage over 54.8 DPS is applied as attack power for Ferals. Because weapon speed is not the rate of Feral attacks, and Feral attacks are 'paws' at a speed of 1.0, the actual DPS on the target is simply a function of attack power. Feral weapon DPS modifies attack power, and in that manner, impacts DPS output. The weapon DPS itself is meaningless except in that it modifies attack power. Is that correct?
All other stats being equal, then, I should compare Feral attack power from weapons rather than the damage or DPS from weapons I'm looking at?
I've done more than a cursory search on this topic and not found a clear answer. It seems a basic topic that gets a very simple description in various forums. No mechanics discussion. Apologies if an answer does exist that I failed to find and this is redundant.
Very astute of you and also correct.
A weapon's min/max/average damage and speed will
matter in cat or bear form.
While FAP is derived from these, the presence of FAP means you still
look at the damage or speed of the weapon.
So yes, damage and speed will remain
We're basically one-armed hunters with a fear of sharp objects when it comes to our weapons, in the manner that they're purely stat sticks to us only we can use melee procs.
Thought I'd add some emphasis. =)
The answer exists but it lies buried in a few forgotten topics.
To clear things up a bit for you, I'll elaborate a little regarding how the concepts of 'paw damage' and 'DPS' apply to pussy cats.
About the fact that weapon damage and speed don't matter for druids attacking in feral forms (cat or bear) you are 100% correct, like
also said. Weapon DPS matters only indirectly, as you'll see the value of Feral Attack Power that's derived from it anyway, so the weapon DPS number is also of no importance to you as a druid. You were also correct in this regard as well.
The damage you see on your character sheet is, as you have said, a function of attack power. It is also a function of damage modifiers from talents / buffs.
Let us work on a real example -
The base paw damage and attack speed are 55 and, respectively, 1 second. 55 is an average value, as the paw damage is actually a little influenced by a random factor, being something more like 53-57, for the sake of a little variability. But the value that's generally accepted is the average 55 because the variation is so small.
Attack Power is converted into damage per second at a rate of 14:1, which means that the extra damage you gain from AP is calculated by the formula
D(AP) = AP * 0.0714
Moving further from D(AP) to the actual weapon damage. The weapon damage is calculated like this:
Paw Damage = 55 + D(AP)
On the screnshot I linked, we have (I'll round numbers down a bit for clarity):
Damage: 736-761 (I'll work with the average value of ~748)
8753 AP = ~625 DPS. This value is added to the base 55 paw damage. So the base damage is 680. We add on top of this the Naturalist talent, which increases physical damage done by 10% in all forms. 680 * 1.1 = ~748.
This damage is what you do with each attack. The actual DPS (damage per second) that you do with auto attacks will be also influenced by your haste. In that screenshot we see 0.92s attack speed. This means that you will actually do 813 DPS, calculated by the formula
DPS=Damage * (Base Attack Speed / Actual Attack Speed)
You two are great examples of why these forums are so useful. Real answers, real numbers, legit theory. (And no "Haha, noob, l2p" responses.)
You are welcome ^_^
However, about that
And no "Haha, noob, l2p"
Believe me we DO have moments when that reply is the best way to deal with some people that come around here. The difference is made by the fact that, even questions like your are basically about basic game mechanics (weird wording, but meh O_o), there are no clear explanations about them in any official Blizzard-made game guides. So either one takes the time to actually test and test (and then test some more) and do the math and crawl through all the trial & error process
comes to a forum to simply ask.
To sum it up:
1) Questions like your are pertinent.
you asked, even if it would have been something more trivial and much more easily found, was polite enough to make any 'L2P, n00b' type of reply look really stupid.
The n00bs that deserve those kind of answer are easily spotted. You certainly don't seem to be one of them :P
Usually when we can see that you have made an effort to learn it by yourself, but still fall bit short of the total enlighnement, we will gladly help you.
But woe you, should you just post something like "feral AP wtf pls help", then the aforementioned reply would be apropriate.
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