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Spirit beast DPS?
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I've mostly been seeing nice numbers in heroics. Haven't really tested in raids but my guild is kind enough to let me bring him to 10 man ulduar. The BM spec with spirit beast numbers were better than when I switched to my SV spec and wolf later in the raid. Are other hunters having nice DPS numbers with their spirit beast and BM spec?
A devilsaur would give more dps as BM, and assuming equal skill and gear, MM will be ahead. Not to discourage you from playing BM or using a spirit beast, if you like it then by all means go ahead.
DPS from different runs and bosses is probably not a good sample. I imagine that there are some fights where BM would theoretically outdps Surv (none come to mind). You may also just be better at playing a BM hunter. For me I play a MM hunter better than a Surv hunter. The shot priority and rotation just work better for me.
You should probably go hit up a target dummy, or if you think or find that your dps is just equal and you enjoy BM with a spirit beast more, then go for it.
and the above post is right, a devilsaur will theoretically outdps a spirit beast.
I've been learning that fighting certain raid bosses are more of a run around last until the end fight versus a sit still and shoot the boss til it dies fight. I've also been thinking about the comments on the spirit beast pages and see a lot of I caught -enter spirit beast name- at this location at this server time. Which can help others find their pets but there is nothing explaining how you should spec your pet for raids. I'm not asking for top DPS specs but explanations on how useful a spirit beast would be in a raid. I want to see: Heart of the Pheonix is useful because you don't have to waste mana reviving a pet and still maintain the DPS you would get from your pet. I'm writing this from my phone and hope to add the links in later.
HotP is available for wolves as well, they are both in ferocity. Most dps pet builds do not take it however, as your pet shouldn't be getting killed in the first place. If there's some sort of AoE or boss ability that will consistently kill your pet, then rezzing it will just end up in it dead the next time the AoE goes off. You can look in my sticky for the best ferocity builds, both BM and SV/MM.
E: gvnaruto beat me to the punch on specs.
Yeah a spec with 16 points. Thanks it still helps.
if you have the 51 points for bm
I played around on
and came up with this
for me and this
using my current gear.
because a dead pet for a BM hunter is a DPS loss. In my case it would be about a 923 DPS loss. By having those 2 abilities it freed up talents in my tree. I no longer need
Improved Revive Pet
I can now use points I would of spent in the tree for DPS increasing talents like
. It also decreases down time between fights since
consumes 80% of your base mana.
helps hunters reach their Hit cap. I only put 2 points in there because that is how many I needed to reach my 8% hit rating. Without it I would lose about 48 DPS. When I get better gear with more Hit I could move those points to different talents like
Improved Arcane Shot
? Pets need Focus to do their special attacks and these attacks make up for about 50% of our pets DPS which would be a quarter of our overall DPS. I plan to watch my pets focus bar against a testing dummy to see if both talents are needed.
If I dropped Beast Mastery then my pet would end up with
this pet spec
. It would be about a 100 DPS loss and we wouldn't be able to use our favorite Spirit Beast.
This is it for now. I haven't tested it in a raid or heroic. I'll save that for another day. Time to go sleep.
Nareik for your help and
Gvnaruto for your quick response and posting the talent specs I could work with.
Yakutat for reminding me about how the fights are different between raid bosses.
I think I should rename the post, "Who wants to raid with their Spirit Beast?" A subtitle for it would be "a collaborative effort from the Wowhead hunter community." Okay can't you tell I'm tired?
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